Most popular threads in the history of the Marathon Swimmers Forum

Since launching in March 2012, the Marathon Swimmers Forum has grown to 935 verified members who have contributed 13,195 comments in 796 discussion threads.

Of those 796 threads, the most popular by far (as measured by page-views) was the discussion of Diana Nyad’s purported swim from Cuba to Florida in September 2013.

The top 25 threads in the history of the Forum are as follows. Relative page views for each thread are shown (indexed to the Nyad thread = 100).

  1. 110 miles, 53 hours: Questions for Diana Nyad [100]
  2. Best Goggles for Open Water Swimming and Triathlon [34.6]
  3. 10km training schedule – 3 months out [11.1]
  4. Waterproof MP3 players for swimming [9.4]
  5. Diana Nyad’s Directional “Streamer” [7.9]
  7. You might be an open water swimmer if … [6.1]
  8. Recommended Products [5.8]
  9. The Animal Set Thread [5.8]
  10. Swim Videos [5.2]
  11. training for a 5km swim [5.2]
  12. Manhattan Island Marathon Swim 2013 [5]
  13. What is an appropriate weekly mileage for completing marathon swims? [4.6]
  14. Sunscreen?! [4.5]
  15. Warming up after a cold water swim [4.3]
  16. Driven [4.2]
  17. Open Water Blogs [4.2]
  18. Diana Nyad’s epic swim [4]
  19. What type of Garmin is recommended for tracking distance and time of open water swims? [4]
  20. Questions about Feeding [4]
  21. Do marathon swimmers breathe every stroke? [3.8]
  22. Craig Lenning – Farallon Swim [3.6]
  23. What’s your next swim? [3.4]
  24. Should rash guards / swim shirts / full body suits (not wetsuits) be permitted? [3.4]
  25. Who Earns the Title ‘Channel Swimmer’? [3.4]

One year in the life of a marathon swimmers forum

One year (and one week) ago, Donal and I launched the Marathon Swimmers Forum with the following mission statement:

  • To celebrate and promote the sport of marathon swimming.
  • To foster connections and information sharing among the global community of marathon swimmers.
  • To provide an educational resource for aspiring marathon swimmers.

Donal and I are both pretty proud of what’s happened since then. Just by the numbers, 565 confirmed members have contributed 5,437 posts in 400 separate discussion threads. Even better, the quality of the contributions has been gratifyingly high.

To celebrate the Forum’s first birthday, here’s a quick peek at the site analytics:

A Global (yet, to be honest, mostly anglophone) Community

Geographical distribution of visits by city

Geographical distribution by country, full year

Geographical distribution by country, first month
Geographical distribution by country, first month

Everybody Loves a Controversy

Top Threads, as measured by pageviews:

Up and to the… Right!

Site Visits, weekly
Unique Visitors, weekly

Thank you to all who have helped make the Forum such a compelling, informative community this past year.


The best marathon swims of 2012

What’s the right way to decide something like this?

By fiat, like the Freshies? By committee, like induction to the IMSHOF? A vote by a group of journalists, like the Baseball Hall of Fame? Or, like the WOWSA awards, an online poll open to anyone regardless of experience or expertise?

First, some background…

‘Round this time last year, a few of us were discussing some of the great achievements in marathon swimming during the previous year (i.e., 2011). A few of them, truly world-class feats of endurance, on par with anything any famous athlete did in more visible, monetized sports. Penny Palfrey‘s 67-mile swim in the Cayman Islands came to mind. As did Forrest Nelson’s circumnavigation of Catalina.

Yet, as it stood then (in early 2012), no organization existed that was saying to the world, and recording for posterity: These are the most outstanding achievements in marathon swimming this year. The question was: How to do it? Who decides? What’s the process?

Long story short: This conversation gave rise to the announcement of the Marathon Swimmers Forum in March. And the Forum, which by October had attracted nearly 500 members, then gave rise to the Global Marathon Swimming Awards.

So there you have it: A community decision. The community being the Forum, which is made up of marathon swimmers and those who have an active interest in the sport. The reward is the respect of peers – no more, no less.

This approach was not without its detractors. Jamie Patrick, commenting on Loneswimmer, said this:

Allowing only those that are members of the forum to vote narrows your audience and does not present to the world the great things these swimmers have done…. This does nothing to bring the public into the marathon [swimming] world. It does nothing to teach and inform outsiders. It just becomes a social club voting for one of their members who they think did the best.

I actually don’t disagree with Jamie’s comments. The problem is, he seems to assume our goal is to maximize publicity. It is not. Our goal is to identify the best marathon swims of the year, and to honor them with the respect of peers. The people who are most qualified to decide this – of “getting the right answer” – are those who are actively involved in the community. Not the general public. We’re not interested in a popularity contest, or encouraging get-out-the-vote campaigns.

The open water swimming community already has an awards program whose goal is to maximize publicity: the WOWSA awards. The WOWSA folks already do a good job, so why would we copy their approach? They have different goals, and they will get a different “answer” than we do (and probably more page-views) — and that’s fine.

Anyway, enough background. After a nomination period, we announced the finalists on the Forum in early December. We then sent a survey invitation to the entire Forum membership via email. These invitations contained a unique “token” that could only be used once, and only by the intended recipient. This was to prevent fraudulent voting, which is rampant in other online polls. Voting closed at midnight on January 1st.

In the end, three remarkable individuals prevailed in the voting. They are as follows:

tina neill
Tina Neill

For Female Solo Swim of the Year: Tina Neill, for her 52-mile swim from San Clemente Island to the California mainland. This was the first time any human has completed a solo swim from this island, and it was the longest-ever solo swim on the Pacific coast of the United States. She swam continuously for 28 hours, 41 minutes – no resting on the boat! It was, in my opinion, one of the greatest feats in the history of marathon swimming. You can read Tina’s original nomination HERE.

trent grimsey
Trent Grimsey. Photo by Donal Buckley

For Male Solo Swim of the Year: Trent Grimsey, for his world-record setting swim in the English Channel. 21 miles in 6 hours, 55 minutes. Donal was fortunate enough to crew on this epically speedy swim. His written account of the experience is also pretty epic – Part 6 is here, with preceding parts linked inline. You can read Trent’s original nomination HERE.

grace van der byl
Grace van der Byl

For the Barra Award (most impressive body of work in 2012, all considered): Grace van der Byl, for a season that included nine new speed records in eight swims. She crossed the Catalina Channel in 7 hours, 27 minutes – a new overall world record by more than 15 minutes. And she swam all seven stages of the 8 Bridges Hudson River Swim, setting course records in every stage plus the overall time. You can read Grace’s original nomination HERE.

Did we get the “right answers”? Frankly, I think we did. But I suppose it’s not for me to decide.

Interestingly, for sake of comparison, the WOWSA Man of the Year and Woman of the Year were both marathon swimmers – and both were nominees in the Global Marathon Swimming Awards. Likewise: Tina, Trent, and Grace were all nominees in the WOWSA Awards.

We got different answers. And that’s fine. I think we all agree that 2012 was a great year in marathon swimming. Onward!

Please also see Donal’s post announcing the winners.

Announcement: The Global Marathon Swimming Awards

Along with my friend, fellow swim-blogger, and Marathon Swimmers Forum co-founder Donal Buckley (of fame), I am excited to announce the first annual Global Marathon Swimming Awards.

As the name suggests, these awards aim to promote and celebrate the sport of marathon swimming – a unique and historic niche within the increasingly vibrant community of Open Water Swimming. Marathon swimmers – just as our founding father Capt. Webb did nearly 140 years ago – swim long distances in open water without artificial aids.

2012 has been an exciting year for our sport. In addition to the second appearance of marathon swimming at the Olympic Games, numerous solo swimmers have done incredible things in ocean channels, lakes, bays, and rivers across the world.

Few, if any groups – online or in the flesh – are in a more knowledgeable and legitimate position to identify and celebrate these achievements than the MARATHONSWIMMERS.ORG community. At nearly 450 members, the Forum counts a sizeable chunk of the world’s currently active marathon swimmers among its members – and many others who will join their ranks in the coming years.

With that in mind, I look forward to the community’s nominations in the following categories:

Any forum member may submit a nomination. If you’re not yet a member, we welcome you to join today!

Five finalists will be selected from among the nominees in each category. The community will then vote in a private survey. We will be taking numerous precautions against vote-rigging and other biases to ensure the legitimacy of the process.

Read Donal’s announcement HERE.

Last Week at the Forum

So much interesting stuff happening down at the Forum these days, it’s tough to keep up with it all; and it’s not even June! Some highlights since my last update:

Forum stats as of 5/30/2012: 312 members, 1572 posts.

Last Week at the Forum

Highlights from the past week at the Marathon Swimmers Forum:

Forum stats as of May 12, 2012 (exactly two months after public launch): 295 members, 104 threads, 1299 posts, 58K page views.

Announcement: The Marathon Swimmers Forum

Donal Buckley and I are pleased to announce a new online community:

marathon swimmers forum

After a brief “quiet launch,” the forum already counts some of the most accomplished and knowledgeable marathon swimmers on the planet among its members. Whether you’re a current marathon swimmer, an aspiring one, a retired one – or just curious – we invite you to join their ranks.

Ask questions (there are no dumb ones). Discuss the latest exploits – from Dover, Manhattan, L.A., and Hawaii… to Perth, Wellington, Tarifa, and the Sea of Japan. Announce your friends’ swims and cheer them on.

2012 will, in all likelihood, be the most historic, exciting year in the history of marathon swimming. Follow it on The Marathon Swimmers Forum.